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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/17/2012, 9:48 am

Minecraft username: FoxDanFox
Admin who banned me: FinalWorld
Reason I was banned: "griefing"
Reason I believe I should be unbanned: I was hacked twice, so ANYBODY could do that. Next, I got Trusted, so there's no point in me griefing someone's house. I love this server, really. Then, I've been building my house and mining all the day, so I didn't have any time to grief, although I wouldn't do that even if I had time. These are my points. I am not even saying that I helped newcomers a lot, built them houses and so on. I hope that we will get this rid of soon. I wouldn't grief anybody on purpose, really. I am sorry if it happened from my account.
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 10:36 am

I will be really pleased if someone looks into my situation, I really want to return to this awesome server!
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Post by mickdude2 on 5/18/2012, 10:44 am

You definitively have a strong argument, seeing as though you were hacked twice. If you provide the times in which you were hacked,and we compare them to the time of grief, you could be proven innocent.
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 10:45 am

It haooened a day before yesterday and 4 days ago.
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 10:50 am

And, please, take into consideration the difference in time between Moscow, Russia and USA.
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Post by mickdude2 on 5/18/2012, 10:54 am

Whoa you're russian? sick.

Could a staff please compare these times?
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 10:56 am

Let me check... something about +8 hours.
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 2:43 pm

Ok, I think now it's time to tell the Truth. There was a player on this server, Pisten, he was banned for using X-ray mod. So I know him in real life, we study in one school. He is a hacker. Actually, his aim was to have a revenge for a ban, so he hacked my MC account and frequently played with my account and name. I talked to him today and he approved that he greft the house. I simply didn't know about that until today. If you don't believe my words, you can ask me for some evidence. For example, Pisten's real name is Andrew, he is 14 and his e-mail is gorliza@mail.com.
Please, somebody, write back as soon as you've read it.
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Post by mickdude2 on 5/18/2012, 3:20 pm

Staff have to check this out now. You have provided more than adequate evidence that you are innocent.
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Post by tlsorrel on 5/18/2012, 4:26 pm

To everyone who says he has provided adequate evidence (mickdude), he's given us an anecdote and an email address, and an "I was hacked" excuse, which I have seen over and over again on ban appeals. This is not sufficient evidence for an unban. I'm sorry, Fox, but I found some of your griefs, and you're going to have to try a little harder. Also, if you've read the rules, you would know that leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.
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Post by mickdude2 on 5/18/2012, 6:27 pm

tlsorrel wrote:To everyone who says he has provided adequate evidence (mickdude), he's given us an anecdote and an email address, and an "I was hacked" excuse, which I have seen over and over again on ban appeals. This is not sufficient evidence for an unban. I'm sorry, Fox, but I found some of your griefs, and you're going to have to try a little harder. Also, if you've read the rules, you would know that leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.

tlsorrel wrote: leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.

He didn't leave his minecraft open though! He was hacked. Go ahead and use the email if you want. But I believe him.
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Post by JesusAsaurusR3X on 5/18/2012, 6:32 pm

tlsorrel wrote:To everyone who says he has provided adequate evidence (mickdude), he's given us an anecdote and an email address, and an "I was hacked" excuse, which I have seen over and over again on ban appeals. This is not sufficient evidence for an unban. I'm sorry, Fox, but I found some of your griefs, and you're going to have to try a little harder. Also, if you've read the rules, you would know that leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.

There's a difference between leaving your MC open on your computer and someone getting on it to grief and someone actually taking your info and logging onto another computer without the owner having any idea. Don't always assume it's the first.

In my opinion, Fox actually has some evidence to back him up. If he really was hacked, his account may have been used on a different computer, meaning he logged in with a different IP than his original one. If you check the logs and see that this is true, that's a piece of evidence right there backing him up.

Also, if the times he said he was hacked are indeed true, there is the possibility that they may match up with the times on the LB logs.

I'm just throwing my two cents in. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by madscientist032 on 5/18/2012, 7:03 pm

JesusAsaurusR3X wrote:
tlsorrel wrote:To everyone who says he has provided adequate evidence (mickdude), he's given us an anecdote and an email address, and an "I was hacked" excuse, which I have seen over and over again on ban appeals. This is not sufficient evidence for an unban. I'm sorry, Fox, but I found some of your griefs, and you're going to have to try a little harder. Also, if you've read the rules, you would know that leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.

There's a difference between leaving your MC open on your computer and someone getting on it to grief and someone actually taking your info and logging onto another computer without the owner having any idea. Don't always assume it's the first.

In my opinion, Fox actually has some evidence to back him up. If he really was hacked, his account may have been used on a different computer, meaning he logged in with a different IP than his original one. If you check the logs and see that this is true, that's a piece of evidence right there backing him up.

Also, if the times he said he was hacked are indeed true, there is the possibility that they may match up with the times on the LB logs.

I'm just throwing my two cents in. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah but at the end of the day, it's still his account, which means that it's still his responsibility to safeguard it and protect it from harm and misuse. This applies to both (a) being hacked and (b) leaving your computer and MC open for others to use without you knowing.

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Post by JesusAsaurusR3X on 5/18/2012, 7:18 pm

madscientist032 wrote:
JesusAsaurusR3X wrote:
tlsorrel wrote:To everyone who says he has provided adequate evidence (mickdude), he's given us an anecdote and an email address, and an "I was hacked" excuse, which I have seen over and over again on ban appeals. This is not sufficient evidence for an unban. I'm sorry, Fox, but I found some of your griefs, and you're going to have to try a little harder. Also, if you've read the rules, you would know that leaving your minecraft open and then having someone come on it and grief shit is still viewed as your fault.

There's a difference between leaving your MC open on your computer and someone getting on it to grief and someone actually taking your info and logging onto another computer without the owner having any idea. Don't always assume it's the first.

In my opinion, Fox actually has some evidence to back him up. If he really was hacked, his account may have been used on a different computer, meaning he logged in with a different IP than his original one. If you check the logs and see that this is true, that's a piece of evidence right there backing him up.

Also, if the times he said he was hacked are indeed true, there is the possibility that they may match up with the times on the LB logs.

I'm just throwing my two cents in. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah but at the end of the day, it's still his account, which means that it's still his responsibility to safeguard it and protect it from harm and misuse. This applies to both (a) being hacked and (b) leaving your computer and MC open for others to use without you knowing.

I don't understand how he's at fault if someone takes his account info without him knowing. To me, saying that it's his fault when he clearly had no control over the situation is like sweeping it under the table to get it over with.
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Post by mickdude2 on 5/18/2012, 7:32 pm

How do you control being hacked? Did Ariley do a bad job as owner because the server was hacked? no. Dan here was a target of hacking, something out of his control.
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Post by ExtraSauce on 5/18/2012, 7:33 pm

I just believe that the Hacker thing isn't real. I mean, we had so many of this ''My friend did this'' ''My dog jumped in the keyboard'' ''The mailman robbed the house'' thing it's not just believable at all, and it seems more than a lie than a excuse.
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Post by madscientist032 on 5/18/2012, 7:35 pm

mickdude2 wrote:How do you control being hacked? Did Ariley do a bad job as owner because the server was hacked? no. Dan here was a target of hacking, something out of his control.
iHe stated earlier that he was hacked twice. If he knew he was hacked after the first time, common sense would dictate that you would change your password so that it wouldn't happen again, but yet he didn't change his password, and got hacked a second time.

However, I was not the one who banned fox. The staff who was responsible for banning fox in the first place will have the last say.

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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 11:48 pm

Oh, as I can see opinions have split up. But all I want to say is that yes, I've left my computer with Andrew but I have logged out of Minecraft and he was not in the room when I was logging in! So he has done more than hacking my account he hacked my Mac, which is awkward, really. Now I've changed my password and Pisten will never find it out. I didn't know he is a hacker, sorry. ll things considered, now it's time to bring up the conclusion. I say: it is NOT my fault, as far as all that creepy stuff happened suddenly and it was done by a man who I believed to, so we are not friends anymore. If after losing a friend I am going to stay banned, I will probably feel awful. I would never grief, as far as I love this server. Still, it is up to you to decide.
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Post by tlsorrel on 5/18/2012, 11:50 pm

ExtraSauce wrote:''My dog jumped in the keyboard''

I really want to see this excuse some day in the future.
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 11:52 pm

ExtraSauce wrote:I just believe that the Hacker thing isn't real. I mean, we had so many of this ''My friend did this'' ''My dog jumped in the keyboard'' ''The mailman robbed the house'' thing it's not just believable at all, and it seems more than a lie than a excuse.

I tell you: I didn't know it happened twice until he told me that himself!
Guys, if you don't like me being on this server... It is weird. Except my ex-friend's greifing from my account I haven't done anything bad and I am not planning to!
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/18/2012, 11:56 pm

What is more, you should know: people don't often lie. Yes, I have got a situation that many "unjustly banned" say about but I am telling the truth. I sware. It's not my fault, having sitation which you count as "the most common fake evidence."
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Post by FinalWorld on 5/19/2012, 1:53 am

Know what, I'll unban you. You so much as touch another breathe on another block that isn't yours. YOU ARE OUTTA HERE... TO be honest, I don't really believe you at all. What is disappointing, however, is the derailment of this thread by other staff >:L... I don't do this often, so you better not take this opportunity lightly...
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Post by FoxDanFox on 5/19/2012, 1:55 am

Thank you very much. I will prove that all that I've said is true, as soon as minecraft.com is online. You will see that I am good guy.
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